Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 64GB vs Mac mini M4 Pro 48GB
For running models locally, priced in the UK. At 128k context the first runs 30 models fully in memory, the second 28.
In short
The Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 64GB has more memory for models: 64 GB against 48 GB. At 128k context the Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 64GB runs 30 of the models we track fully in memory and the Mac mini M4 Pro 48GB 28; only the Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 64GB holds Qwen 3.5 122B-A10B. On the models both run fully in memory, the Mac mini M4 Pro 48GB is about 1.3× as fast as the Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 64GB (estimated, median across models).
Updated . Speeds are estimates; how they are worked out.
Specifications
| Spec | Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 64GB | Mac mini M4 Pro 48GB |
|---|---|---|
| Chip | Ryzen AI Max+ 395 (Radeon 8060S) | Apple M4 Pro (20-core GPU) |
| Memory bus | 256-bit | 256-bit |
| Memory bandwidth | 256 GB/s | 273 GB/s |
| FP16 compute | 59.4 TFLOPS | 8.08 TFLOPS |
| Software | ROCm | Metal |
| Unified memory | 64 GB | 48 GB |
| GPU can use by default | 48 GB | 36 GB |
| GPU can use, tuned | 56 GB | 40 GB |
| Operating system | linux | macos |
| Processor | Ryzen AI Max+ 395 | M4 Pro 14-core |
| Storage | 1000 GB | 512 GB |
What each runs
Estimated decode speed with the most precise quant that fits each one est.
| Model | Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 64GB | Mac mini M4 Pro 48GB |
|---|---|---|
| Qwen 3.8 27B | 4tok/sQ8_0 | 6tok/sUD-Q6_K |
| Qwen 3.5 122B-A10B | 13tok/sUD-Q2_K_XL | won't run |
| Qwen 3.6 27B | 4tok/sQ8_0 | 6tok/sQ6_K |
| Gemma 4 31B | 3tok/sQ8_0 | 5tok/sQ6_K |
| Mistral Small 4 119B | 16tok/sUD-Q2_K_XL | won't run |
| Qwen 3.6 35B-A3B | 15tok/sQ8_0 | 21tok/sUD-Q6_K |
| Qwen 3.5 27B | 4tok/sQ8_0 | 6tok/sQ6_K |
| Gemma 4 26B-A4B | 12tok/sQ8_0 | 15tok/sQ8_0 |
| Qwen 3.5 35B-A3B | 15tok/sQ8_0 | 21tok/sQ6_K |
| GLM 4.7 Flash | 7tok/sQ8_0 | 10tok/sQ6_K |
| Devstral Small 2 24B | 3tok/sQ8_0 | 5tok/sQ4_K_M |
| Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B | 20tok/sUD-Q6_K_XL | 26tok/sUD-Q6_K_XL |
| Kimi Linear 48B-A3B | 24tok/sQ6_K | 33tok/sQ5_K_M |
| gpt-oss 20B | 15tok/sMXFP4 | 19tok/sMXFP4 |
| Qwen3 Coder 30B-A3B | 5tok/sQ8_0 | 7tok/sQ5_K_M |
| Gemma 4 12B | 9tok/sQ8_0 | 12tok/sQ8_0 |
| Qwen 3.5 9B | 10tok/sQ8_0 | 13tok/sQ8_0 |
| Gemma 3 27B | 4tok/sQ8_0 | 5tok/sQ6_K |
| Mistral Small 3.2 24B | 3tok/sQ8_0 | 5tok/sQ4_K_M |
| Ministral 3 14B | 4tok/sQ8_0 | 5tok/sQ8_0 |
| Qwen3 14B | 4tok/sQ8_0 | 5tok/sQ8_0 |
| DeepSeek R1 0528 Qwen3 8B | 5tok/sQ8_0 | 6tok/sQ8_0 |
| Qwen3 8B | 5tok/sQ8_0 | 6tok/sQ8_0 |
| Phi-4 14B | 3tok/sQ8_0 | 5tok/sQ4_K_M |
| Qwen 3.5 4B | 16tok/sQ8_0 | 20tok/sQ8_0 |
| Ministral 3 8B | 5tok/sQ8_0 | 7tok/sQ8_0 |
| Granite 4.2 8B | 5tok/sQ8_0 | 6tok/sQ8_0 |
| Gemma 4 E4B | 12tok/sQ8_0 | 15tok/sQ8_0 |
| LFM2.5 8B-A1B | 11tok/sQ8_0 | 14tok/sQ8_0 |
| Llama 3.1 8B | 6tok/sQ6_K | 8tok/sQ6_K |
| DeepSeek V4 Flash | won't run | won't run |
| GLM 5.3 Flash | won't run | won't run |
| Qwen 3.8 Flash Next | won't run | won't run |
| MiniMax M2.7 | won't run | won't run |
| Nemotron 3 Super 120B-A12B | won't run | won't run |
| Qwen3 Coder Next | won't run | won't run |
| gpt-oss 120B | won't run | won't run |
| GLM 4.5 Air | won't run | won't run |
| Qwen3 Next 80B-A3B | won't run | won't run |
| Qwen3 32B | won't run | won't run |
| DeepSeek R1 Distill Qwen 32B | won't run | won't run |
| Llama 3.3 70B | won't run | won't run |
Questions
- Which is better for local AI, the Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 64GB or the Mac mini M4 Pro 48GB?
- Choose the Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 64GB to run bigger models. Choose the Mac mini M4 Pro 48GB for speed.
- Which can run bigger models, the Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 64GB or the Mac mini M4 Pro 48GB?
- At 128k context the Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 64GB runs 30 of the models we track fully in memory and the Mac mini M4 Pro 48GB 28; only the Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 64GB holds Qwen 3.5 122B-A10B.
- Which is faster for local AI, the Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 64GB or the Mac mini M4 Pro 48GB?
- On the models both run fully in memory, the Mac mini M4 Pro 48GB is about 1.3× as fast as the Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 64GB (estimated, median across models).
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