Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 128GB vs Mac mini M4 Pro 64GB
For running models locally, priced in the UK. At 8k context the first runs 41 models fully in memory, the second 36.
Specifications
| Spec | Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 128GB | Mac mini M4 Pro 64GB |
|---|---|---|
| Chip | Ryzen AI Max+ 395 (Radeon 8060S) | Apple M4 Pro (20-core GPU) |
| Memory bus | 256-bit | 256-bit |
| Memory bandwidth | 256 GB/s | 273 GB/s |
| FP16 compute | 59.4 TFLOPS | 8.08 TFLOPS |
| Software | ROCm | Metal |
| Unified memory | 128 GB | 64 GB |
| GPU can use by default | 96 GB | 48 GB |
| GPU can use, tuned | 120 GB | 56 GB |
| Operating system | linux | macos |
| Processor | Ryzen AI Max+ 395 | M4 Pro 14-core |
| Storage | 1000 GB | 1000 GB |
What each runs
Estimated decode speed with the most precise quant that fits each one est.
| Model | Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 128GB | Mac mini M4 Pro 64GB |
|---|---|---|
| DeepSeek V4 Flash | 11tok/sUD-Q2_K_XL | won't run |
| Qwen 3.8 Flash Next | 3tok/sUD-Q3_K_XL | won't run |
| MiniMax M2.7 | 15tok/sUD-Q2_K_XL | won't run |
| Qwen 3.8 27B | 5tok/sQ8_0 | 6tok/sQ8_0 |
| Qwen 3.5 122B-A10B | 10tok/sQ6_K | 29tok/sUD-Q2_K_XL |
| Qwen 3.6 27B | 5tok/sQ8_0 | 6tok/sQ8_0 |
| gpt-oss 120B | 25tok/sMXFP4 | won't run |
| Qwen3 Coder Next | 19tok/sQ8_0 | 40tok/sQ4_K_M |
| Nemotron 3 Super 120B-A12B | 10tok/sUD-Q4_K_M | won't run |
| Gemma 4 31B | 4tok/sQ8_0 | 5tok/sQ8_0 |
| Mistral Small 4 119B | 14tok/sUD-Q6_K | 42tok/sUD-Q2_K_XL |
| Qwen 3.6 35B-A3B | 26tok/sQ8_0 | 32tok/sQ8_0 |
| Qwen 3.5 27B | 5tok/sQ8_0 | 6tok/sQ8_0 |
| Gemma 4 26B-A4B | 19tok/sQ8_0 | 23tok/sQ8_0 |
| GLM 4.5 Air | 5tok/sQ6_K | 13tok/sQ2_K |
| Qwen 3.5 35B-A3B | 26tok/sQ8_0 | 32tok/sQ8_0 |
| Qwen3 Next 80B-A3B | 25tok/sQ8_0 | 52tok/sQ4_K_M |
| GLM 4.7 Flash | 15tok/sQ8_0 | 19tok/sQ8_0 |
| Devstral Small 2 24B | 5tok/sQ8_0 | 7tok/sQ8_0 |
| Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B | 25tok/sUD-Q6_K_XL | 31tok/sUD-Q6_K_XL |
| gpt-oss 20B | 32tok/sMXFP4 | 40tok/sMXFP4 |
| Kimi Linear 48B-A3B | 26tok/sQ8_0 | 41tok/sQ6_K |
| Qwen3 Coder 30B-A3B | 21tok/sQ8_0 | 27tok/sQ8_0 |
| Qwen3 32B | 4tok/sQ8_0 | 5tok/sQ8_0 |
| Gemma 4 12B | 11tok/sQ8_0 | 14tok/sQ8_0 |
| Qwen 3.5 9B | 14tok/sQ8_0 | 18tok/sQ8_0 |
| Mistral Small 3.2 24B | 5tok/sQ8_0 | 7tok/sQ8_0 |
| Gemma 3 27B | 5tok/sQ8_0 | 6tok/sQ8_0 |
| DeepSeek R1 Distill Qwen 32B | 4tok/sQ8_0 | 5tok/sQ8_0 |
| Llama 3.3 70B | 2tok/sQ8_0 | 4tok/sQ4_K_M |
| Ministral 3 14B | 9tok/sQ8_0 | 11tok/sQ8_0 |
| Qwen3 14B | 8tok/sQ8_0 | 10tok/sQ8_0 |
| DeepSeek R1 0528 Qwen3 8B | 14tok/sQ8_0 | 18tok/sQ8_0 |
| Qwen3 8B | 14tok/sQ8_0 | 18tok/sQ8_0 |
| Phi-4 14B | 8tok/sQ8_0 | 10tok/sQ8_0 |
| Qwen 3.5 4B | 29tok/sQ8_0 | 37tok/sQ8_0 |
| Ministral 3 8B | 14tok/sQ8_0 | 17tok/sQ8_0 |
| Granite 4.2 8B | 13tok/sQ8_0 | 17tok/sQ8_0 |
| Gemma 4 E4B | 17tok/sQ8_0 | 21tok/sQ8_0 |
| LFM2.5 8B-A1B | 58tok/sQ8_0 | 73tok/sQ8_0 |
| Llama 3.1 8B | 18tok/sQ6_K | 23tok/sQ6_K |
| GLM 5.3 Flash | won't run | won't run |