Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 128GB vs Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 64GB
For running models locally, priced in Canada. At 128k context the first runs 39 models fully in memory, the second 30.
In short
The Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 128GB has more memory for models: 128 GB against 64 GB. At 128k context the Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 128GB runs 39 of the models we track fully in memory and the Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 64GB 30; only the Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 128GB holds Qwen 3.8 Flash Next. On the models both run fully in memory, the Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 128GB and the Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 64GB are about as fast as each other (estimated).
Updated . Speeds are estimates; how they are worked out.
Specifications
| Spec | Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 128GB | Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 64GB |
|---|---|---|
| Chip | Ryzen AI Max+ 395 (Radeon 8060S) | Ryzen AI Max+ 395 (Radeon 8060S) |
| Memory bus | 256-bit | 256-bit |
| Memory bandwidth | 256 GB/s | 256 GB/s |
| FP16 compute | 59.4 TFLOPS | 59.4 TFLOPS |
| Software | ROCm | ROCm |
| Unified memory | 128 GB | 64 GB |
| GPU can use by default | 96 GB | 48 GB |
| GPU can use, tuned | 120 GB | 56 GB |
| Operating system | linux | linux |
| Processor | Ryzen AI Max+ 395 | Ryzen AI Max+ 395 |
| Storage | 1000 GB | 1000 GB |
What each runs
Estimated decode speed with the most precise quant that fits each one est.
| Model | Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 128GB | Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 64GB |
|---|---|---|
| Qwen 3.8 Flash Next | 3tok/sUD-Q3_K_XL | won't run |
| Qwen 3.8 27B | 4tok/sQ8_0 | 4tok/sQ8_0 |
| Qwen 3.5 122B-A10B | 8tok/sQ5_K_M | 13tok/sUD-Q2_K_XL |
| Qwen 3.6 27B | 4tok/sQ8_0 | 4tok/sQ8_0 |
| Qwen3 Coder Next | 11tok/sQ8_0 | won't run |
| gpt-oss 120B | 11tok/sMXFP4 | won't run |
| Nemotron 3 Super 120B-A12B | 9tok/sUD-Q4_K_M | won't run |
| Gemma 4 31B | 3tok/sQ8_0 | 3tok/sQ8_0 |
| Mistral Small 4 119B | 10tok/sUD-Q5_K_M | 16tok/sUD-Q2_K_XL |
| Qwen 3.6 35B-A3B | 15tok/sQ8_0 | 15tok/sQ8_0 |
| Qwen 3.5 27B | 4tok/sQ8_0 | 4tok/sQ8_0 |
| Gemma 4 26B-A4B | 12tok/sQ8_0 | 12tok/sQ8_0 |
| GLM 4.5 Air | 2tok/sQ4_K_M | won't run |
| Qwen 3.5 35B-A3B | 15tok/sQ8_0 | 15tok/sQ8_0 |
| Qwen3 Next 80B-A3B | 13tok/sQ8_0 | won't run |
| GLM 4.7 Flash | 7tok/sQ8_0 | 7tok/sQ8_0 |
| Devstral Small 2 24B | 3tok/sQ8_0 | 3tok/sQ8_0 |
| Nemotron 3.5 Lightning 30B-A3B | 20tok/sUD-Q6_K_XL | 20tok/sUD-Q6_K_XL |
| Kimi Linear 48B-A3B | 20tok/sQ8_0 | 24tok/sQ6_K |
| gpt-oss 20B | 15tok/sMXFP4 | 15tok/sMXFP4 |
| Qwen3 Coder 30B-A3B | 5tok/sQ8_0 | 5tok/sQ8_0 |
| Qwen3 32B | 2tok/sQ8_0 | won't run |
| Gemma 4 12B | 9tok/sQ8_0 | 9tok/sQ8_0 |
| Qwen 3.5 9B | 10tok/sQ8_0 | 10tok/sQ8_0 |
| Gemma 3 27B | 4tok/sQ8_0 | 4tok/sQ8_0 |
| Mistral Small 3.2 24B | 3tok/sQ8_0 | 3tok/sQ8_0 |
| DeepSeek R1 Distill Qwen 32B | 2tok/sQ8_0 | won't run |
| Llama 3.3 70B | 2tok/sQ5_K_M | won't run |
| Ministral 3 14B | 4tok/sQ8_0 | 4tok/sQ8_0 |
| Qwen3 14B | 4tok/sQ8_0 | 4tok/sQ8_0 |
| DeepSeek R1 0528 Qwen3 8B | 5tok/sQ8_0 | 5tok/sQ8_0 |
| Qwen3 8B | 5tok/sQ8_0 | 5tok/sQ8_0 |
| Phi-4 14B | 3tok/sQ8_0 | 3tok/sQ8_0 |
| Qwen 3.5 4B | 16tok/sQ8_0 | 16tok/sQ8_0 |
| Ministral 3 8B | 5tok/sQ8_0 | 5tok/sQ8_0 |
| Granite 4.2 8B | 5tok/sQ8_0 | 5tok/sQ8_0 |
| Gemma 4 E4B | 12tok/sQ8_0 | 12tok/sQ8_0 |
| LFM2.5 8B-A1B | 11tok/sQ8_0 | 11tok/sQ8_0 |
| Llama 3.1 8B | 6tok/sQ6_K | 6tok/sQ6_K |
| DeepSeek V4 Flash | won't run | won't run |
| GLM 5.3 Flash | won't run | won't run |
| MiniMax M2.7 | won't run | won't run |
Questions
- Which is better for local AI, the Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 128GB or the Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 64GB?
- Choose the Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 128GB to run bigger models.
- Which can run bigger models, the Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 128GB or the Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 64GB?
- At 128k context the Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 128GB runs 39 of the models we track fully in memory and the Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 64GB 30; only the Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 128GB holds Qwen 3.8 Flash Next.
- Which is faster for local AI, the Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 128GB or the Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 64GB?
- On the models both run fully in memory, the Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 128GB and the Framework Desktop Ryzen AI Max+ 395 64GB are about as fast as each other (estimated).
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